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 Post subject: Zul'Aman Loot...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:43 am  
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What are you looking forward to?

[Girdle of Stromgarde's Hope] - Thank god for a good healing belt finally.
[Mask of Introspection] - Can be gemmed to be slightly better then T5 because of the crit.
[Enamelled Disc of Mojo] - /drool. I've always wanted a Gruul sheild anyway.

And who wouldn't want [Tiny Voodoo Mask]. Evil little gnomes.

And of course all the badges.


Just curious what people are hoping for, I'm sure theres plenty of other stuff I haven't seen.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:06 am  
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There's a bunch of stuff in ZA I'd like, but to be perfectly honest I'm more interested in heroic loot. There's some pieces I'll pick up for specific roles like easier farming and Mount Hyjal trash but nothing thats going into my end game gearset which is where I'm starting to think at this point.

Stuff I will pick up:

These two will see significant use.
[Bulwark of the Amani Empire]

[Battleworn Tuskguard] Small irony about this one -- I'm spending too many item points in my gear on int right now (Should be raiding with 6kish and not 8k mana). Since I'm never going to see my T5 helm unless we don't raid with any other paladins/rogues/shaman for the rest of the year, I can gem it entirely with spell damage gems and wind up losing only 35 hp, 1 dodge rating point and about 250 mana while gaining significant amount of block value and rating (Go go Hyjal trash mitigation). I'd still prefer the T5 helm for the 4 piece bonus but what can you do?

These three are alright for specific situations.
[Chestguard of the Warlord]
[Jungle Stompers]
[Pauldrons of Stone Resolve]

[Hex Shrunken Head] <-- After the casters get theirs

[Tiny Voodoo Mask] <-- Because who doesn't want a retinue of psychotic ankle biters at their beck and call?
[Amani War Bear] (8))



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:56 am  
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Yeah..I'll be looking forward to heroic loot finally.

for the most part i HATE running heroics.

I'm REALLY looking forward to badges from Kara/Zul'Aman.


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[Trollbane]
[The Savage's Choker]
[Arrow-fall Chestguard] Holy crap...need
[Coif of the Jungle Stalker]
[Berserker's Rage]
[Tuskbreaker]
[Ancient Sin'dorei Longbow] not so much...but for kicks, and maybe pvp

ZA has some real nice hunter stuff, especially the haste for BM

And the badge stuff is really nice as well

[Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse] You don't need this to complete your set of ninja'd dps two handed swords, Shell?



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Most of the stuff Jayon listed is nice, but these are the awesome.

[Dagger of Bad Mojo]

2 of these will be my melee weapons of choice through BT and Hyjal unless I need hit rating from [Halberd of Desolation], which hopefully won't happen, but probably will since there's none on T6.



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Fwamderie wrote:


Slightly off topic, but I've been trying to understand my healers better. Is MP5 so critical to priests that you'd want a trinket like that which has no +heal?



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Mortehl wrote:
Fwamderie wrote:


Slightly off topic, but I've been trying to understand my healers better. Is MP5 so critical to priests that you'd want a trinket like that which has no +heal?


If you have no mana, you have no heals.



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Thing is, Priest heals use ALOT of mana compared to the other classes.(Max Renew-450, Max Flash Heal-470, Greater Heal-825) They can afford to not have a ton of plus heal, simply because they dont need it to be efficient healers. Like, zebra as a shadow priest's Greater Heal max rank crits for 5k.

From the little bit of priest healing I did at 60, you spend more time casting/stopcasting the heals, only letting them go off when they're needed, so you get a good amount of time to regen between heals.

As opposed to paladins, where my two max rank heals use 180 and 840 mana, and ~27% of the time they crit and return 60% of that mana. So i can easily stack nothing but +heal and +int and not have any mana issues that chugging more mana pots can fix.


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Mortehl wrote:
Fwamderie wrote:


Slightly off topic, but I've been trying to understand my healers better. Is MP5 so critical to priests that you'd want a trinket like that which has no +heal?


Well, strictly speaking, this does have +heal, it's just clicky.

In any case, this isn't strictly my favorite type of trinket, but the high numbers make it compelling. I'm at the point on mp5 where I've been trying to trade some of it for +healing, though the way itemization is, I've really only been able to do that in 1slot/1enchant. For this particular item, though, this is such a huge amount of mp5 that nothing else available in the current itemization we have access to is a worthwhile tradeoff on the +healing -- nothing has enough healing on it that you'd choose it in this slot. Unless there are items I'm not thinking of.

In theory, my trinket preference, from most favoritest to not is:

1. Balanced mp5/healing, PASSIVE (e.g. [Rejuvenating Gem] which I still use. I thought [Eye of Gruul] might go in this category except I found that the proc rate was such that it wasn't as good as other things I could equip, also that I spam renew too much which costs less than the mana threshold so I was often wasting part of it.)
2. USE mana effect (assuming it's better than passive effects, e.g. [Bangle of Endless Blessings] or [Lower City Prayerbook] except they're not good enough, compared to other things I could equip)
3. mp5 or healing with USE effect (e.g. [Warp-Scarab Brooch] which I am most often using these days, [Scarab of the Infinite Cycle])

I'm having a tough time finding trinkets I love these days. Rejuv is good bread and butter. I had been using Bangle prior to Vashj when I found that the constant 13mp5 played better for that fight, but the fact is, I don't make enough use of the +healing clicky on the Brooch and feel like it's a waste. I might go in for a [Fel Reaver's Piston], as I like Holy, and my level of CoH use in raids is such that it becomes a decent possibility.


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(Max Renew-450, Max Flash Heal-470, Greater Heal-825)

Downrank GHeal spam with 2pc t5=276. lolz.

These are pre-talent on renew and GHeal.



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Jayon wrote:
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Didn't we kill the dude that revives dead things last expansion?



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Necro'd Post. Apparently Jayon has some time on his hands!



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